Acts17 Takes Special Weaponry to Islamic Society of North America

Nabeel Qureshi and David Wood to take Reinforcements with them to ISNA (Islamic Society of North America), Chicago

The controversial pair caused great unrest and speculation after being arrested last week at the Arab Festival in Dearborn under the charge of disorderly conduct. (See appendix 1)

This group, in their attempt to court publicity, is fast becoming a nuisance group for security and police officers. You would think they would have given ISNA a miss after their latest shameful episode in Dearborn but this group has no parameters when it comes to shame and here they are preparing to go to ISNA with their cameras in tow looking for further misadventure.

 A Big Twist: They are Taking Reinforcements this Time

 What type of reinforcements? Well they are claiming to act under the guise of the “Gospel” so are they taking free copies of the Bible as their “reinforcement”? No, they are taking the Muslim-abusing-machine, that is none other than Sam “Islam allows sex with animals” Shamoun! (see appendix 2)

 For those who don’t know Sam Shamoun you are well advised to view the dumpster section at AnsweringChrisitanity (appendix 2), Sam Shamoun’s venomous tongue is infamous

 I guess the mantra will be; “hey Muslims, if you don’t convert we shall unleash Sam Shamoun to abuse you and your faith”

 Or

  “if you don’t allow us in to cause a nuisance we will get our buddy Sam Shamoun to make up his own translations of the Quran to make you Muslims seem debauched and depraved”

 Perhaps more aptly for Wood and his attention-seeking crew:

 “Sam Shamoun’s infamous verbal assaults will be unleashed if you don’t provide us with controversial footage”

 We Never Pay Our Own Bills

 Yes, you guessed it; David Wood and co are looking for you, the penniless reader, to pay for this attention-hunting misadventure. Have they not heard about a global recession?

 Gullibility runs wild within fundamentalist groups so those who threw their cash (a staggering $1100) at David Wood in order to send him all the way to Dearborn to satisfy his lust to re-enact a scene from the A-team will be opening their wallets to send the boys off to “save” the Muslims at ISNA.

 Ignorance is Bliss

 In their previous e-begging episode prior to Dearborn they not only wanted you to buy them plane tickets but also contribute to the expense of a camera. Since when were cameras essential in preaching the Gospel?

 The truth is David Wood and co don’t really do this for the “Gospel”, they do it for publicity and thrill-seeking. Sounds like middle-aged thrill-seeking rather than preaching to me:

 “Muslims have threatened us with death if we return to the festival, so now we definitely have to show up”

 Of course we are talking about people who will donate to David Wood and co simply out of sheer naivety and/or hatred for Muslims.

 You Cannot be Serious (About Evangelism)

 John McEnroe’s outrage at shoddy line calls led to such rhetorical statements of disbelief. We are in a state of shock; we have David Wood and his trusted side-kick Nabeel Qureshi begging for our cash again under the guise of the “Gospel”. We smell a rat.

 If they were serious about preaching Christianity then why would they want to travel all the way to ISNA (Chicago) to “save” people when New York and Virginia (their localities) are full of the great “unsaved”? Why bypass and even ignore all these “unsaved” people on your doorstep in favour of Muslims in Chicago?

 New York recently had a gay pride rally; where was the hero of “evangelism”, David Wood?  Perhaps David Wood and Nabeel Qureshi are liberal and believe the gay lifestyle is fine. In that case, what about all the Atheists in their locality? Why ignore these “unsaved” people in favour of Muslims, something smells like publicity.

 You Cannot be Serious: Whose Decision was it to take the Paragon of Unholy to ISNA?

 If they were serious about evangelism they would not be taking the proverbial “albatross around the neck” (Sam Shamoun).Sam Shamoun is dead weight in the business of evangelism as his infamous reputation precedes him and only serves to repulse Muslims from his message, in fact people come to Islam BECAUSE of this man!

 Camera Tricks

 If they were serious about evangelism then they would not be making camera priority equipment for this mission of “evangelism”. When I go out to preach the “Word” I don’t take a camera, I’m not sure why Wood and co need to buy a $500 camera specifically for this event, I smell publicity.

 “Please support our trip via PayPal. We’ll be sure to get plenty of video footage (yes, I actually had to spend $500 to purchase a new camera”

 Now, $500 could have been better spent, but Wood needs to get footage for his blog; a blog which he openly admits is not designed for evangelism but intent on “warning” people about Islam.

 Still convinced it is about the Church and not about publicity, sensationalism and misadventure? The gullibility of some will never cease to amaze me. That same gullibility chimed well with Ted Haggard, Ergun Caner, Jimmy Swaggert, Benny Hinn and co.

 Nobody Wants anything to Do with these Guys

 Here is a Muslim commentator, reflecting Muslim distrust regarding everything to do with David Wood and his pals:

 “I hope those Muslims who are attending this event will bring their own cameras and record all of the thuggery perpetrated by Wood and his groupies in the name of peaceful debate. Since that foul mouth Sam Shamoun is accompanying them, you can expect anything but peace from their side”

Even Christians who are serious about evangelism don’t trust David Wood and his Acts17Apologetics team:

The Rev. Haytham Abi Haydar, a Christian evangelical convert from Islam with Arabic Alliance Church in Dearborn, said that a Christian group called Acts 17 Apologetics caused the problems at this year’s Arab festival.

They put cameras in their faces and were very antagonistic,” Abi Haydar said of the group that produced the controversial video that has drawn almost 1.4 million views on YouTube.

Nobody with any foresight wants David Wood, Sam Shamoun and Nabeel Qureshi there but for some reason we can guarantee this group will invite itself along with its cameras; real party poopers looking for somebody to satisfy their cravings for attention. The cops obliged in Dearborn, I wonder who will extend them the same courtesy in Chicago (ISNA).

Sam Shamoun’s Last Chance Saloon

It is interesting this man is taking a break from trawling the internet and abusing Muslims (for a few days, at least), thank god for small mercies. Why the shift in Shamoun’s pattern of behaviour?

Sam Shamoun seems to have schemes of his own in place. Rest assured Sam Shamoun is not simply being dragged all the way to Chicago due to a misdirected pang of altruism. Sam Shamoun has been lacking in the department of serious attention for a good while. A reality expressed by Jonathon Dupree:

“This is your legacy Sam. We all note that you didn’t have a debate partner in Michigan recently though it was advertised for months that you would. I am sure that left you feeling hollow”

Essentially Dupree, within the subtext, is pointing to the lack of regard in which Shamoun is held within his field by his peers and counterparts, thus this naturally reflects  the volume  of attention Shamoun gets; which has steadily been on the decline for quite some time

Sam Shamoun seems to be a fallen star within apologetics and in order to “re-establish” himself as worthy of consideration; Shamoun has taken to the route of shameless publicity seeking under the auspices of David Wood.

Shamoun is desperate to debate a Muslim, no Muslim will touch this man with a 20ft barge pole (despite being willing to debate serious apologists such  as Tony Costa) so Shamoun reckons a spot of infamy with David Wood and co will remedy the embarrassing shunning he is suffering from, how despairing!

Nabeel Qureshi

Well, Nabeel has never been his own man. David Wood has moulded Nabeel Qureshi into a carbon copy of himself. Qureshi strikes me as a person who strives not to disagree with Wood; this seems to be evident in Qureshi staying in the debate arena at the “insistence” of David Wood.  Even after marriage, Qureshi serves David Wood loyally; instead of spending time with his new wife he trounces off to Dearborn and spends a night in Dearborn City Jail with David Wood.

Sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do, Nabeel.

Antonio Santana

Sadly, my friend Antonio will be going along with them. Antonio in my view is sincere; he has completed his Pastoral studies, thus seems sincere in preaching Christianity.

I pray David Wood’s antics do not get this young man in hot water

Negeen Mayel

She seems to be staying well away from the misguided influences of David Wood. Good decision, after all Wood dragged her to a Festival which saw a woman assaulted the year before. What does our chivalrous friend David Wood do? He drags 18 year old Negeen Mayel to Dearborn to hold a camera in such a hostile, death threat-ridden environment. Way to go David, you really have this girl’s best interests at heart!

Muslims at ISNA

They should simply ignore the attention fuelled blokes from Acts17Apologetics

The Church is Being Undermined yet Again

Christians have a long and convoluted history of undermining and even doing away with the teachings of Jesus

For some reason it is the great “unsaved” who are the first to notice harm to the Church. “Christians” monetise pretty much everything and so many of those claiming to be acting for the Church value themselves greater than the message they purport to deliver and engender

These antics of courting publicity, self-aggrandizement and “donations” under the false pretence of the “Gospel” never go down well with the natives, thus only acts as a recruiting sergeant for Atheism and other world views (including Islam)

The worldly-wise pity the poor Christians and their gullibility as David Wood beats his chest proclaiming himself to be like the Apostles to  rapturous applause (and sprinklings of dollar bills) from Christian cheerleaders looking on at their new found evangelical hero; a fast track to Atheism.

“The Church of England never sleeps in its efforts to chuck away its own heritage and abandon the principles of Christianity” (Peter Hitchens)

Appendices

Appendix 1

Breaking news, answeringmuslims team arrested in Dearborn, International Arab Festival:

https://yahyasnow.wordpress.com/2010/06/19/christians-arrested-at-the-arab-festival-dearborn/

Appendix 2

Interesting section (appropriately and rather ominously entitled the “dumpster section”) which catalogues some of Sam Shamoun’s hazardous comments:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/dumpster_section.htm

Appendix 3

Sam Shamoun asked to stand down:

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/04/open-letter-to-answeringislam.html

17 Questions for a Christian “Apologetcis” Group

A Jamaican group of Muslims have decided to investigate David Wood and Nabeel Qureshi (acts17 team). They have come up with seventeen tough questions of concern which have been met by censorship 😦

Acts17apologetics should realise silence will only amplify and increase the potency of these seventeen questions. In fact many of these questions are key in the field of Muslim-Christian discussion. Thus, the questions spread far beyond the Acts17 group but are relevant to all christians as real food for thought.

If Acts17 really wants to be taken seriously as an “apologetics” group then it may want to stop censoring the tough questions. in the past the activities of David Wood (the co-founder of Acts17Apologetics) have been sullying to the reputation of Christian apologetics and their continued ploy of censorship only serves to intensify the looking glass…a looking glass which is firmly fixated on Wood and Qureshi

Related post:
https://yahyasnow.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/david-wood-worthy-of-debate/

James White: Hero for Muslims?

It never astounds me to note different depths Christian ministries will go to in order to win Muslim converts. I’m not just talking about “rice-converts” but of course speaking of my findings related to my studies with regard to Christian outreaches to Muslims.

I am desensitized to the gullibility of the Christian audience to simply absorb the material on offer, regardless of the intellectual bankruptcy the material in question espouses; as long as it is from a Christian source they will accept it blindly.

Obvious Example: Ergun Caner

The obvious example would be Dr Ergun Caner (Christian evangelist) and the scandal surrounding him. Of course, I and many other Muslims have been aware of Caner’s wilful deception of his gullible Christian flock for quite some time (see Appendix 1). The real concern is that it takes such a long time for responsible Christians to click on and say “hey this is not on”.
There is an investigation into the whole Caner saga and Christians have began to vocalise their concern and efforts to clean up Christian apologetics, especially Christian apologetics related to Islam.

I have often wondered why Christian evangelists/apologists misinform Muslims or misinform about Islam; I used to simply say to myself it is because the Muslim is the toughest to convert to Christianity, however more refined reflections lead to the thought it is a combination of factors, one of these factors is sheer ignorance on the part of Christians when it concerns Islam.

Dr James White: Cleaning up the Christian Ministries

This leads us nicely to a superficial warrior amongst the Christian arena of apologetics named Dr James White. He has been a source of amplification, of late, in helping bring Dr Ergun Caner to account. Some Christians (Canerites) have had misgivings concerning White’s involvement and intentions. As a Muslim who dabbles in apologetics, from time to time, I must say I was impressed (initially) with White’s stand up type of approach and his desire to do the right thing in bringing Christian outreaches to account (i.e. clean them up)

Actions are Judged on Intentions

James White’s Christian brothers, such as Peter Lumpkins and other Canerites, are viewing White with suspicion. What is White’s motive? Is it really to “seek integrity in ministry”?

It is difficult to believe James White is genuine with his guises of “integrity” and concern for the ministries. James White’s inconsistencies with regards to integrity and evangelical edification intimates White’s motives related to Caner are in some doubt.

White’s lack of regard for “integrity in ministry” is clear for all to see within his actions. Actions speak louder than words, James. (See Appendix 2 and 3)

James, Friends are Family Members you Choose

White has a weak link in his armour on the “integrity” front. He has an association (a friendship) with an internet Christian evangelist named Sam Shamoun. Shamoun is not renowned for his integrity but is renowned for his unscholarly work as well as manner within Christian-Muslim apologetics. (see Appendix 4)

The only thing which precedes Sam Shamoun is his tongue. A tongue which unleashes horrific comments directed at Muslims (individuals he is meant to be “saving”). Naturally this has repulsed a great deal of Muslims, yet James White is still friends with this sub-Christian character.

James White is so loyal to his Caner-esque friend that he has declined opportunities to denounce Shamoun publically. In fact, it is on the contrary, White has endorsed this individual by featuring his work on his blog as “excellent Quranic insights” and declaring Shamoun as having a “vast knowledge of Islam” whilst on air.

Shamoun and White do not exactly make obvious bed fellows but rest assured White’s actions of endorsement, friendship and a refusal to denounce his friend clearly highlight the pair are in league.

White has been under mild pressure from a Muslim debater, Bassam Zawadi, in the past to denounce Shamoun (see Appendix 5). This was met with James White avoiding the issue of Shamoun, basically staying silent on his pal. A silence which spoke volumes in saying White is a hypocrite and has no regard for the “integrity” and has no real desire to clean up Christian apologetics.

James White: One Rule for Caner, Another Rule for My Friend

White essentially operates a double standard when he bashes (to an obsession) Ergun Caner with sticks of “morality” and “integrity”. It is high time White removed himself from this realm of hypocrisy; either he stops with this obsession with Caner or deals some blows to Sam Shamoun with the sticks of “morality” and “integrity”.

Lumpkins and co are barking up the correct tree so far as White’s intentions are concerned; White is not this paragon of sincerity and “integrity” he makes himself out to be whilst pressurizing his Christian brother (Ergun Caner), White’s motives in jumping on Caner are far from sincere. If he genuinely cared for “integrity” he would have dealt with Sam Shamoun by now, we are still waiting for this superhero of the ministries to clean his friend’s act and ministry up. This is a far more pressing issue than Caner; Ergun Caner is all but over, thanks to persistent Muslim investigation by Mohammed Khan, it hardly requires James White to focus all his “integrity” laden energy on delivering the final blow Caner. James, save some of that energy for your pal (Sam Shamoun).

James White: Refuse to be Wrong (Even When Proven to be Wrong)

The embarrassing saga for James White continues. When White with his Arabic teacher (Issam) in tow was bashing Caner’s lack of Arabic in his latest YouTube video he ventured too far, beyond his realm of expertise. White, in an attempt to show off his Arabic teacher, asked Issam to “recite” the first Surah (chapter) from the Quran from memory. Issam recited a few verses in Arabic but it was not Surah al Fatiha (the first Surah in the Quran) as a verse was missed out (see Appendix 2).

White endorsed this “recitation” and presented it as Surah al Fatiha; it was not Surah al Fatiha. I (Yahya Snow) pointed this embarrassing and offensive mistake out to White via a video response.

To my utter amazement White censored my video response and did not even have the courtesy or respect to change/remove the embarrassing and offensive presentation. White’s pride meant he was unwilling to correct his material and would rather leave the inaccurate material for his Christian audience to view, quite simply White showed a complete lack of care for accuracy and honesty; he STILL keeps this inaccurate material on his YouTube page despite knowing it to be inaccurate. White’s pride is leaving his Christian audience with misinformation. Is this the action of a paragon of “integrity” or a man who basically feels he is above error and self-correction?

Essentially, White, his ministry (Alpha and Omega Ministries) and his pal (Issam) are looking foolish in front of all the Muslim audience but White’s pride does not allow him to remove the offending clip and acknowledge his error. This is a huge crime within the setting of genuine Muslim-Christian apologetics, intellectual dishonesty and even deception.

White Chooses Sam Shamoun Over Jesus

It gets worse as White’s unscholarly nature and intellectual
dishonesty is unearthed further. White is also challenged, in the video, to explain his endorsement of Sam Shamoun’s outrageously dishonest and unscholarly practice.

Shamoun, in his attempt to support his argument against Muslim apologists, made his OWN translation of a Quranic verse up (one which was in utter disagreement with all recognised translations of the Quran). For the record it is important to point out that Shamoun is by no means qualified or authorised to translate the Quran or any Quranic verse. This did not stop him; this is James White’s friend we are talking about, scholarly boundaries do not apply to him! (see Appendix 3)

White is Not Whiter than White (an irresistable pun) 🙂


Nevertheless, James White committed abysmal intellectual dishonesty and inconsistency by endorsing it as “excellent Quranic insights”. All this despite Shamoun not even telling his audience he was making his own translation up which disagrees with all the translations on record (i.e. the audience were being wilfully misdirected by James White’s friend). There were other heinous acts of scholarly savagery which were present within the article endorsed by none other than the man of “integrity”, Dr James White

The hypocrisy (inconsistency) of White sets in because there is NO way White would allow a Muslim to do the same to the Bible. White presents himself as a staunch advocate of consistency yet disregards all he holds sacred in order to support his friend Sam Shamoun. (see Appendix 6)

Caner Vs White

Dr Ergun Caner has his faults and his fair share of controversy; so does Dr James White. Yet, White compounds his problems by jumping on the “bash Caner bandwagon”. James, pride always comes before a fall!

White abandoned Caner under the guise of “integrity” but will not abandon Sam Shamoun who is notorious for his anti-Christian behaviour and his shoddy scholarship. In fact, to further present the picture of the real Sam Shamoun it would be advisable to note Muslim apologists/debaters have refused to engage him based on a moral question. It does not get any worse for a Christian ministry when their leader is being shunned on grounds of morality, where is James White to clean up the ministries?

James White’s silence on this issue speaks volumes, it really does.
Will we be seeing Christians abandon White and bash him with sticks of “integrity” and “morality” in order to clean up the ministries?

Written by Yahya Snow


Appendices

Appendix 1:

Ergun Caner of Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary has been under scrutiny for some time:
http://www.youtube.com/user/mokhan247


Appendix 2:

James White being hypocritical, unscholarly and misleading (REFUSING to be WRONE, even When he KNOWS he is WRONG):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg6D2iuXBcw

Appendix 3:

James White challenged to prove his intellectual and scholarly integrity:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/06/dr-james-white-challenged-to-prove-his.html

Appendix 4:

One example of James White’s friend, Sam Shamoun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1mT-pw1WEc

Appendix 5:

Bassam Zawadi invites the man James white to rebuke his friend’s unchristian behaviour:
http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/james_white_s_inconsistency__his_refusal_to_speak_against_his_highly_ill_mannered_friend_sam_shamoun

Appendix 6:

Sam Shamoun making his own Quranic translation of a verse and keeping it quiet (amongst other things):
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/05/appeal-to-dr-james-white-and-his.html

Shamoun and his friend are being shunned byMuslims due to their unChristian behaviour:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NuGv72FTRI

Appendix 7

A couple emails sent to Dr White at alpha and omega ministries (aomin), please ignore the typographical errors, these emails were met with silence along with the shorter emails sending him links to my material referring to him:

Sir,

I noted your unapproval of my video response concerning Sam Shamoun. I would like to remind you of the serious nature of the allegations/intimations withinthe said video.

I have given up hope of you responding which leaves me with the conclusion that you support uncholarly endeavour when it concerns the Quran but Muslims are not allowed to do the same to the Bible. This is a harsh conclusion; I was hoping you would have taken the time out to clear your name instead of simply resorting to censorship.

If I may, I will leave you with a parting shot; how can you rebuke Ergun Caner and be free from a double standard?

I genuinely believe this is another sad chapter added to the huge volume which concerns misbehaviour amongst Christian outreaches (ministries) to Muslims.

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/06/dr-james-white-challenged-to-prove-his.html

Yahya Snow

Dear Sir,

I have been waiting a good while for your response to my blog postings and YouTube videos related to the Sam Shamoun saga. I was little surprised in seeing you unapprove my video.

In my view this issue concerning Shamoun is more pressing than the issue of Caner.

Please let me know whether you are considering a response, if you are not looking to respond then please letme know so I can get some closure and concentrate fully on other projects.

Thanks

Yahya Snow