Reply to Negeen Mayel

Negeen Mayel’s Inconsistent Attack on Lauren Booth’s Conversion

Who is Negeen Mayel?

Negeen Mayel is a Christian convert and has blogged about Lauren Booth’s conversion. Negeen operates in an inconsistent fashion in attempting to suggest further study of Islam will deflate Lauren Booth’s feelings of “absolute bliss and joy”.

Aside from Negeen’s misunderstanding with regards to the Islamic source material she quotes, Negeen operates a double standard as the Bible contains teachings which would have to be a concern for Negeen if she was consistent with her standard of judgement.

Predictably, Negeen writes:

Ms.Booth said she had so far only read up to page 60 in the Quran, which makes sense since if she had gone any further she would have hit Surah Al-Nisa, at which point her “absolute bliss and joy” feelings towards her recently accepted beliefs would undoubtedly be confronted with Surah 4:34.

Beating Wives “Surah 4:34”

I’m pretty confident Negeen is already aware of the explanation with regards to this Verse but just in case she has not had it explained to her (o heard/read an explanation) I will point her to Yusuf Estes’ explanation. I hope Negeen stops using this as a hit piece as it is inconsistent and she has now had it clarified for her. Yusuf Estes explaining this issue:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/01/wife-beating.html

Bible-believing Ladies are not easily shocked

Negeen feels this Verse to be “deflating” and perhaps even shocking. However, Negeen must remember she is a “Bible-believing Christian” so a Verse which allows the beating of wives is hardly going to be shocking for a “Bible-believing lady”.

Has Negeen Mayel Read the Bible?

It appears Negeen has not read the Bible and thus operates from a secular standpoint. If Negeen has read the Bible then she is operating in a deliberately inconsistent fashion. Nothing in Islamic teachings should shock Negeen Mayel if she uses the Bible as her standard. If Negeen uses American (secular) law as her standard then both Christianity and Islam will be incompatible with her worldview.

Forget About Beating Women…how About KILLING women, Negeen?

Was Negeen not shocked to realise her biblical and Christian teachings show God (according to Christianity this includes the Holy Spirit, Jesus and the Father) supporting the killing of WOMEN and CHILDREN as well as taking the virgin girls as slaves.

5 Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! 6 Kill them all—old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. 7 “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with corpses. Go!” So they went and began killing throughout the city. (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

As a Muslim; we do not know whether this story is accurate. However, we go by God’s standard so IF God did order something of this nature then we as BELIEVERS are not going to criticise it.

Negeen should NOT have been presenting Surah 4:34 for shock effect based on her BIBLICAL standards as she believes God ordered the KILLING of women and children. Be consistent, Negeen!

[Negeen should also Read Numbers 31:7-18 as Moses commands the killing of women and boys. Our Negeen has no problem believing Moses to be a Prophet despite this Biblical passage. Be consistent, Negeen!]

The NIV and Rape

Did Negeen Read the NIV translation of Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (New International Version – UK)?
If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Now Negeen may say other translations don’t use the word “rape”; the MSG uses the word “rape” and other translations suggest rape too!

Was Negeen Mayel not shocked by Deuteronomy?

Negeen Mayel’s book does not support sex before marriage either. We see true Bible-believing Christians will not have criticism for the stoning of girls who are found out to be non-virgins on their wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)

Killing or beating?

Non-virgin girls are killed but Negeen Mayel is more shocked by Surah 4:24? This is inconsistent to an extreme. If Negeen is really this champion of women’s rights then what in the world is she doing claiming to be a Bible believing Christian whilst using secular standards to have a dig at Islam? Has she even read the whole Bible? Really?

Surely, if she was consistent she would have rejected the god of the Bible based on the standard she uses to shock and discourage Lauren Booth.

God does not love all

Sadly, Negeen is very much in the clutches of the extremist brigade. Perhaps they sold “Christianity” to her based on the misappropriated claim that “Jesus loves everyone”. Anybody who is intellectually honest and seriously informed with regards to Christianity will certainly tell you this is unbiblical rhetoric that “preachers” use as a sound bite. The Bible does not support their sound bite.

Therefore, the proud may not stand in your presence, for you hate all who do evil. Psalm 5:5 (New Living Translation)

Negeen Mayel’s Cabal

Recently we caught Negeen’s mentor, David Wood, presenting the most sick sex lie I have ever come across. He presented it as a fact despite knowing it was untrue. The latest development in this sorry saga gives it an even more desperate twist; a colleague of mine has pointed me to evidence David Wood’s mentor (the infamous Mr Shamoun) used the SAME sick sex hoax in 2008. This, my friends, is the type of sheer nastiness are up against. Have a re-read of Psalm 5:5 (above); rest assured we are opposing evil designs!

We are opposing extremist Christians who want to demonise Muslims, the Prophet (p) and Islam for their own ends under the guise of the “church”.

Negeen Mayel has decisions to make

I have personally communicated with Negeen and she did reassure me she does not hate Muslims. I actually believe her and I believe her when she says she is an ex-Muslim (despite some discrepancies being pointed out on YT vis-à-vis her conversion video).

Mr Shamoun as a mentor?

The problem Negeen faces is that she has thrown her lot in with a rag-tag group of bigots/haters and charlatans. Their group is very much in league with the charlatan Sam “Islam allows sex with animals” Shamoun. This is a man who has left a trail of vile all over the net spanning years. Recently we captured Shamoun’s unedifying assault on a Muslim imam in a pal talk chat room:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/11/sam-shamoun-obsessed-with-shabir-ally.html

Mr Wood as an example?

Then there is Mr Wood; his bag of tricks includes sick sex lies. Quite how Negeen can tandem with somebody with such a mindset is beyond me. Rest assured, our David was indeed motivated by hatred when he presented the infamous sex hoax. It sends shudders down my being when thinking about it. Yuck!
Absolutely disgusting! See here for Mr Wood’s despicable sex hoax:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/11/pornographic-lies-on-abn-by-david-wood.html

Mr Wood should hang his head in shame, instead he moves on without a care in the world and his latest post is him bashing Michelle Obama for wearing a hijab! I guess Mr Wood is tearing down all those hijabified picture of Mary on church walls…I guess he is also wrenching 1 Corinthians from the Bible as we speak.

Don’t forget Mr Qureshi

There is Mr Qureshi, well he seems to be the less outspoken and controversial. However, do not let this befool you into believing Mr Qureshi (the self-styled “exMuslim”) is intellectually honest. He is STILL featuring material which he KNOWS to be inaccurate and subsequently is misleading people. See here to learn more:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/09/bassam-zawadi-rebukes-nabeel-qureshi.html

Does Negeen Believe Jesus Supported the Killing of Females Found Out to be Non-Virgins?

Deuteronomy 22:20-21 (New International Version)
20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death

Perhaps Negeen was just playing “sensitive” in order to have a dig at Lauren Booth’s conversion. Others could use the same “sensitivities” and apply them in an attack against Negeen’s conversion with GREATER force using the BIBLE. Negeen, be consistent!

Calling Negeen Mayel to Drop her Failed Argument

So Negeen, which is more shocking; God allowing the killing of kids and women or the allowance of beating of wives (see explanation above)? Negeen, we ALL know the answer and we ALL call you to consistency as inconsistency is the sign of a failed argument.

Negeen using the words of a Prophet (p) for shock purposes

Negeen writes: For starters here are the words of Muhammad himself:

[Muhammad said]: O womenfolk, you should give charity and ask much forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady among them said: Why is it, Messenger of Allah, that our folk is in bulk in Hell? Upon this the Holy Prophet observed: You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion but (at the same time) robbing the wisdom of the wise, besides you. Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense and with religion? He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Your lack of common sense (can be well judged from the fact) that the evidence of two women is equal to one man, that is a proof of the lack of common sense. (Sahih Muslim, Abdul Hamid Siddiqi, tr., Number 142)

Are women the majority in Hell?

These women are NOT simply sent to Hell based on gender. Sadly, missionaries like to leave it there so people are misdirected into thinking this way.. There is a context and explanation! This is explained here:
http://www.islamicsearchcenter.com/archive/2010/05/why-women-majority-in-the-hell/#comment-3371

Common Sense

Furthermore, the issue of women lacking in common sense is not as shocking as Negeen believes it to be. Muslim women can hold the position of scholars and have held positions of narrators of ahadith; thus the hadith is not claiming women to be half-wits. It refers to women being more naturally guided by emotion and the failing in religion refers to them praying and fasting less due to natural reasons [see pg 340 of Moustafa Zayed’s book response to Robert Spencer]

Now we have explained this issue we can concentrate on Negeen Mayel’s double standards.

Does Negeen not know the Bible teaches men are in charge of women?

Ephesians 5

For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior (Ephesians 5:23 NIV)

Does Negeen Support the Kojak look?

Forced to wear a hijab? I wonder if Negeen and other Christian ladies follow the example of Mary and other Muslim ladies by wearing the head covering or whether Negeen supports the Kojak look.

If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head (1 Corinthians 11:6 NIV)

I believe Britney Spears and the lady in the Alien movies went down the “Kojak” route. Sinead O Connor too? However, none of them sheared their locks for Biblical reasons as far as I am aware.

If I was a woman faced with those choices I would just wear the hijab as it is something Mary wore (can’t be a bad thing then) and I would want to safeguard my locks Negeen, be consistent!

Quoting Prophets

Negeen quotes the Prophet Muhammad (p) (see above) and we shall quote another Prophet, Moses (p). According to her Bible, Moses orders the killing of women and children. For some reason Negeen finds the above statement by Prophet Muhammad (p) shocking but has nothing to say about this passage in the Bible; perhaps she has not read Numbers 31

Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man (Numbers 31:17)

I take it Negeen is off to tell her Christian pals she has renounced Christianity. She will have to do this IF she wants to maintain consistency. Either that or she will have to apologise for the shoddy shock-seeking article she produced. I call Negeen Mayel to public repentance and a public apology to Lauren Booth.

Liberal Christians?

I’m not entirely sure if Negeen is a liberal Christian who believes in homosexuality, dating and women church leaders. If she is I really wonder how she circumnavigates the anti-gay stance her book takes.

[Leviticus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 22:20-21 teach against homosexuality and sex before marriage respectively]

Of course fornication and homosexuality is allowed in America. I guess, if Negeen is a liberal Christian, this is all rather shocking to her too.

Negeen, what do you think of burning people alive?

This must be extremely shocking for Negeen if she is really taking issue with Surah 4:34.

“‘If a priest’s daughter defiles herself by becoming a prostitute, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire.. (Leviticus 21:9 NIV)

I guess the stuff about Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit loving everybody is simply sales pitch rhetoric especially in light of Psalm 5:5-6 and some of the verse we have showcased within this rebuke

Negeen: god of the Bible does not love everybody

Do you still believe Jesus, Father and the Holy Spirit love everybody? You see, in Islam we do not have an issue with God not loving the evil-doers. Why should God love the evil-doers? In Christianity it is clear god does not love the bad folk BUT for some reason Christians try to sell Christianity to us by telling us “Jesus loves everyone”.

The truth is; your Christian teachings teach non-Christians are doomed. St Augustine condemned non-baptised babies to Hell.

I guess it is easier to market Christianity in liberal America by changing its teachings; some have allowed gay marriages in order to appeal to liberal America.

After all we do find many women in church leadership positions nowadays. It would never have happened in the days of Paul. Changing your faith to a form of liberalism is up to you but to malign Islam because it stands firm to the teachings of God is problematic for Muslims. That is why I stepped in, just to make sure it does not happen again.

If you are intellectually honest you will make certain we do not see a repeat of this episode. Furthermore, I call you to holiness and righteousness and ask you to review your associations with your current company.

Conclusion

Negeen argues against Islam without a standard of consistency. She is either ill-informed with regards to the Bible or she is being deliberately inconsistent in order to wrack up the anti-Islamic sentiment her superiors expect of her.

Whatever happened to those peace loving Christians? Those Christians who try to be consistent, balanced and erudite?

The answer; some converted to Islam, some to secularism, and the rest have been drowned out by the fundamentalists who spend day and night traducing others and their respective faiths.

Christians: If Michelle Obama wants to wear a hijab, let her as it is BIBLICAL! There is no reason to go ballistic. Mary is certainly thought to have worn a head covering. Calm down with this ridiculous anti-Muslim rhetoric and you may just be taken seriously for a change and if you stop making sick sex hoaxes up about our faith we may just give you a tub of ice cream!

Negeen, if you cannot argue against Islam from a CONSISTENT standpoint then why leave Islam? I call you to the worship of the God which Jesus prayed to. Now, if Jesus is praying it is telling us he has a god. If that god is good enough for Jesus it is certainly good enough for you. Negeen, that god is none other than the One who created Jesus.

I invite Negeen Mayel to come to Islam by putting aside her inconsistencies and misconceptions.

Would you like to know more about the God of Jesus? If yes come to Islam today:
http://www.ediscoverislam.com/

FEEDBACK: yahyasnow@hotmail.com

Advertisements

One thought on “Reply to Negeen Mayel

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s