Sam Shamoun Asked to Stand Down

Sam Shamoun Asked to Stand Down: An Open Letter to AnsweringIslam by Yahya Snow

Recently, one of my colleagues alerted me to some harrassment and insults he had received at the hands of Sam Shamoun.

Sadly, this is not an isolated case; I have personally been the subject of Sam Shamoun’s harrasment and hounding (as well as other colleagues of mine). This is far from the behaviour of a gentleman. My colleagues and I, do not warrant such abuse.

We appreciate Sam Shamoun has a history of misdemeanours and has left a trail of insults, hatred and name-calling directed at Muslims and their faith but one would have thought Shamoun would have matured with age (the man is around the age of forty now); given his recent repertoire of abuse this clearly is not the case.

Recently I rebuked Sam Shamoun’s colleague (David Wood) due to his “obnoxious” behaviour; this rebuke only came about due to the unwilling nature of those (Christians) around Mr Wood despite my prompting that they need to rebuke him as his behaviour was clearly out of control (dare I say…unChristian). This rebukes seems tohave had apositive effect on some ofthe Christians in his circle.

Shamoun’s situation carries parrallels, though Shamoun’s case is much more severe due to the prolonged nature of his venom…I ask the Answering Islam team to rebuke Sam Shamoun, better still in my view there is no place for somebody of Shamoun’s disposition in the field of apologetics; perhaps now is the time for Samuel Green or a senior colleague to say “thanks Sam but no thanks” and part company.

Surely now is an opportune time to dispense with the services of Sam Shamoun, there are a number of young Christian apologists who could fill the void quite easily without clogging it with the abysmal hate Sam Shamoun engenders.

Perhaps more worrying to those who hold the Bbile in high esteem, Shamoun seems to be interpolating his own wording into the Bible; he is editing the Bible in order to support his arguments. This is not on!

The choice is certainly down to Mr Green and his colleagues but the view from the trenches is that of Shamoun portraying Christianity and Christian values in a poor light. To be frank, Christians and non-Christinas are being repelled by his behaviour and these calls of a rebuke are certainly in merit of swift and decisive action.

The Nadir Ahmed-Sam Shamoun days are well and truly over…if only others can realise this reality and aid us in elevating the discourse to a higher (and more noble) ground.

Dare we imagine Sam Shamoun realising the awkward position he puts his colleagues and his fellow Christians and falling on his sword and leaving the scene in an upright manner.

By Yahya Snow

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7 thoughts on “Sam Shamoun Asked to Stand Down

  1. A certain person (of people) have written a petition to try and get the owner of Answering-Christianity (Osama Abdullah) to step down as thw owner. The request can be viewed here:

    http://www.petitiononline.com/acosam06/petition.html

    It seems to be Christians who have done this, even though the words used give an an image that a Muslim has done it.

    Shamoun is the owner of the site, thus his article writers and colleagues would look up to him, so they aren’t going to rebuke him. Their standards are similar to Shamoun’s, so they could care less what Shamoun says and does against Islam. Only the sincere Christians would rebuke him, but the rest don’t even care. That shows the the corrupt morality of these Christians.

    They guy puts his preconceived ideas into a Jewish book, to suit his Pauline theology, to try and win over converts like his role model did: 1 Corinthians 9:19-23

  2. IslamicReplies,

    You don’t know what you are talking about vis-a-vis the ownership of AI.

    As for Sam, you assume that your charges against him – for example, “the guy puts his preconceived ideas into a Jewish book” – are true. Unless you can prove this, you aren’t showing any problem with Christians who refuse to rebuke Sam; we are not taught to rebuke someone for speaking the truth.

    Your misuse of 1 Corinthians 9:19-23, very common among Muslims, is a much better example of reading one’s preconceived ideas into a book to suit their anti-Christian bias.

    • Ok, heres the proof: Just 1 example: Shamoun stated that Numbers 22:31 shows Baalam worshiped the Angel and accepted worship in:

      http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/jesus_angel_of_yahweh.htm

      Firstly, no-where does the verse say that he bowed down to the Angel. It neither says that he worshiped the angel. The verse doesn’t say who he bowed down to. Shamoun is assuming what isn’t there in the text.

      If we agree for Shamoun for sake of argument, if “bowing down” to someone proves he/she is God, according to the same logic:

      Genesis 23:12:
      “Again Abraham bowed down before the people of the land.”

      Genesis 42:6:
      “Now Joseph was the governor of the land, the one who sold grain to all its people. So when Joseph’s brothers arrived, they bowed down to him with their faces to the ground.”

      According to his logic, that means the people were worshipped which makes them God. Also:

      Genesis 19:1:
      “The TWO angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet THEM and bowed down with his face to the ground.”

      According to his assumption of what is not in Numbers 22:31 (that he worshiped the angel) we should also agree that Lot bowed down to the angels.

      According to Shamoun’s logic of worshiping the angel in Numbers 22:31, we should also agree that Lot worshiped 2 Angels in Genesis 19:1, which makes them God.

      None of these verses including Numbers 22:31 prove the angels or people were worshiped, since bowing down to people back then was a standard form of greeting at that time.

      But, according to Shamoun’s standards of Numbers 22:31, that means the 2 angels in Genesis 19:1 and human beings in Genesis 23:12 and Genesis 42:6 were worshiped, which makes them God.

      I can give many more examples of how he and other Christians have misunderstood the Jewish language and taken things literally. This was just 1 of them.

      Just like you asked for proof, I ask for proof of 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 as to how it is a misuse. The meaning of these verses doesn’t change when the context is read.

      The only good thing about 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 is that he admits what he did, and what he did is deception according to Leviticus 19:11.

  3. I hope you didn’t take to much time writing all that. It won’t take me more than a minute to refute it, although I could say a whole lot more.

    Islamic Replies said: “I can give many more examples of how he and other Christians have misunderstood the Jewish language and taken things literally. This was just 1 of them.”

    The language of the Hebrew Bible, which is much stronger in the context than you appear to recognize by your comparisons to examples of people bowing to others, led the Jews, who existed before the time of Jesus and long before the birth of Sam Shamoun, whom we may therefore safely assume could not be charged with not understanding “the Jewish language”, interpreted it this way:

    “And the Lord unveiled the eyes of Bileam, and he beheld the angel of the Lord standing in the way, his sword unsheathed in his hand; and he bowed, and WORSHIPPED on his face.” (Aramaic Targum of Pseudo Jonathan on Genesis 22)

    And for another example:

    “And the Lord unveiled Bileam’s eyes, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the road with his sword unsheathed in his hand: and he bowed, and worshipped upon his face.” (Targum of Onkelos)

    I’m afraid it is back to the drawing board for you. Do let us know what you come up with. We are all ears.

  4. P.S. Check out my new series on this at AI when the next update comes out. Only part one will be on the update (Lord Willing), but it is the first of many in which I will address this topic at length.

    • Really Anthony, in depth?

      OK, let us know when and where. I hope you address Shamoun’s errors. Islamic Replies is totally correct in saying Shamoun misrepresented the text.

      • Islamic Replies is using good logic; I await to ascertain what type of reasoning Rogers employs.

        I just hope itis not the convoluted reasoning employed by Shamoun

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